Today, many people have visited China for bvacation/b and for business. But in 1998 and 1999, it was still pretty exotic. In the training program's first years, there were a lot of unknowns. ?When we started, our biggest advantage was having Haoran as a full-time faculty ... ?We don't go there claiming to be China experts,? bGess/b said. ?We say, 'We know how government works in the U.S. Let's talk about that and see what might work for you, what you can adopt or change.'? ...